Lily Cheng (Photo: Kuo Yao Chung)
Cover Lily Cheng (Photo: Kuo Yao Chung)

With the recent regulatory reforms from the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong opening up at least 1,350 board appointments for women, experienced INED Lily Cheng reveals everything you need to know about the role of an INED and how to become a good one

Lily Cheng didn’t have any particular ambition to become an Independent Non-Executive Director (INED). But when she was approached by a headhunter while she was president of Asia-Pacific for TripAdvisor, it was an opportunity she considered, despite not knowing what to expect.

That first INED role, back in 2016, was for the board of a private-equity backed company in the UK. Cheng accepted in a move that would set a precedent for the future.

More opportunities followed including with companies in industries outside her areas of professional expertise—travel and technology. It was a time when the importance of diversity on boards was being recognised, but Cheng’s experience was also growing.

In 2018, Cheng joined the board of property developer, owner and operator Swire Properties, becoming the youngest INED nominated to the board of a Hang Seng Large Cap Index constituent. She would go on to join the boards of two other Stock Exchange of Hong Kong (HKEX) listed companies, namely Chow Tai Fook Jewellery and Sunevision, the technology arm of Sun Hung Kai Properties. She continues to hold all three board seats, alongside an INED role at Octopus Cards.

Since joining her first board, Cheng has often been the only, or one of two female INEDs in the room at board meetings, though change is afoot. “Of the boards I’m on now, there are at least two or three women,” she says. “And I do see a slow trend towards an increasing number of women on boards. So, it’s heading in the right direction, but not quite at the pace that we’d all like to see.”

In December 2021, the HKEX announced reforms to improve board gender diversity, requiring that single gender boards would no longer be acceptable and any all-male boards would be granted a maximum of three years to appoint at least one female board member. It's a move that will open up at least 1,350 board appointments for women. With this in mind, Cheng shares some of the things she has learned on her journey to becoming an INED, what other women can expect from the experience, and some advice for those looking to put themselves forward for such positions.

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Lily Cheng in her former role as President of Asia-Pacific for TripAdvisor
Above Lily Cheng in her former role as President of Asia-Pacific for TripAdvisor

What do you wish you had known before you joined your first board?

I wish I had reached out to some of the more tenured women who have served on many boards. Having that type of coaching and mentorship would have been tremendously helpful at the time.

Is industry experience or board experience more important?

This was the question I had for Swire Properties when they approached me for a board seat. I said I had very little real estate experience in a professional context, and asked whether this was a board that I could add value to. Their response was quite interesting: they said they were the experts in real estate and there were other members of the board who are experts in real estate, and that what they really cared about was assembling a board that has diversity, not just across genders, but also across different industries and age groups. Many of the challenges that companies face are common not industry-specific, for example, how to recruit talent from the tech industry, or how to cultivate an innovative culture where it’s okay to fail. 

I think part of the role of the board is to bring perspectives from other industries and other parts of the world into the boardroom so when decisions need to be made, they can be made in a wider context of what's happening in the world. In that regard, many boards like to have a composition where there are members from different areas of functional expertise, whether from accounting, legal, marketing or sales, and different industries.

What makes a good INED?

Firstly, and especially for someone who is transitioning or taking on the role from an executive role, it's having a very clear understanding of what the role of the board is and how the role of an INED is different from an executive.

I think there's a tendency for someone who's only been in an executive role to want to solve problems when they see them. But that’s not always the role an INED should take. As a board member, your role is to ask the right questions, make sure that the management team and CEO has access to the right resources, but not necessarily to dive in and try and solve things yourself. I think that’s a common mistake.

Talking to others who have been in INED roles before is hugely valuable in terms of putting yourself in the right mindset, as is going on the HKEX website and reading the listing rules on corporate governance to understand what the role entails and what your responsibilities are as there are legal and technical responsibilities that come with an INED role.

Secondly, a good INED is informed about the macroeconomic environment that the company is operating in. For example, in an executive role, it might be okay to just be focussed on your own functional area or industry. But as a board member you need to be aware of what's going on with regard to geopolitics, or interest rates, or imminent recession. Having a macro view of what's happening in the world is really important.

Thirdly, it’s having a strong EQ, good communication skills and some level of maturity in terms of how you communicate.

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Lily Cheng at a Sunevision Extraordinary General Meeting
Above Lily Cheng at a Sunevision Extraordinary General Meeting

What are some of the biggest challenges you have faced as a board member?

The amount of material that you have to consume for a single board meeting is huge, especially if your professional experience is from a different industry. There are a lot of new things, such as terminology and metrics, so in addition to reading, for example, a 1000-page board pack, you have to fill any gaps in your knowledge.

On a more personal level as someone who's relatively new to this, it's intimidating to be in a room of amazingly accomplished board members. Having the confidence to speak up when you should is something that I've had to work on. It takes some mental preparation—telling myself that I belong there and I have a reason to be there. And if I feel that something needs to be vocalised, I would not be doing my job if I didn't do so.

How do you stay on top of everything for all your board roles?

I read a lot and that includes media from different countries in different languages. I make sure that I consume media in Chinese from Hong Kong, but also from the mainland and from the US, and I also read peer group annual reports and stock analyst industry reports. There’s a lot of reading.

What are some of the hot topics that you are facing as a board member today?

At the top of the agenda for many boards is ESG (Environment, Social and Governance), partly because of changes from the HKEX to disclose more information in this area, so a lot of companies are starting to think about the metrics they need to be tracking, the targets they need to be setting in terms of carbon emissions and the timeline, and what kind of investments they should be making. Another area is risk and resilience, particularly with the current geopolitical situation globally and Covid, in order to ensure companies are resilient to such disruptions.

Is there anything you think that women in particular can bring to boards?

The value of a diverse board is pretty well established—having representatives of different genders from different walks of life and different industries creates a more fruitful environment for discussion. But one thing that I've noticed specifically about the value of being a women on the board is the response that I get from female executives in the company. They're always so excited and reach out to me to say how glad they are that I’ve joined the board. I think to executives, it's a sign that there is no glass ceiling at the company and they can see themselves there in a few years.

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Lily Cheng at work
Above Lily Cheng at work

Why aren’t there more women on boards in Hong Kong?

I think that many of the women who are qualified to be in these roles are still in executive roles, and often their company will not allow them to take on an external board seat, perhaps for fear of conflict of interest or that their time will be distracted towards serving the board as opposed to their executive role. But, based on what I've seen, it really only adds to what an executive can bring to their own company, because they can see how boards work and they get exposure to a different network and potentially a different industry. I would really encourage companies to allow their female executives to take at least one board role. And I think it’s quite possible to have an executive role and one board role—though any more than that would be potentially challenging, especially if it’s for a listed company.

Women also need to reach a certain level in an organisation in order to be considered for a board role—typically C-suite, President, MD or Partner in a professional services firm. So women need to stay in the workplace to reach that level, and on that front Covid has not been helpful. I’ve seen a lot of highly qualified women feel like they had to leave the workforce because of the school disruptions in the past few years. Unfortunately, many women are still the primary caregiver in the family and the primary shock absorber. As a society, we should make sure that we can support women who want to stay in the workplace to reach these levels, such that they can then serve on the boards that need them.

How do you manage your time and all of your commitments?

With great difficulty! I have had to consciously think about how I organise my time and create an environment where I can do all the things I need to do to be successful in these roles. I get a lot of support from my family. I am also relentless about automating life, whether that’s monthly bills or any of the bureaucracy that comes with running a household. I’ve also invested in building a support infrastructure for our family so I don’t have to spend as much of my time doing administrative tasks. It’s a real privilege to have the resources to do that and it has been hugely valuable.

I also have a clear order of priority. The boards that I’m committed to tend to work on quite a structured schedule planned up to 18 months in advance, so I can block off those days and perhaps two days prior to read all of the materials. My other commitments [Cheng runs her own software lab, Hubel Labs] then flow around them. However, this might be the case when things are going right and everything is predictable, but that’s not always going to be true. For example, during the pandemic, one of my boards switched from six meetings a year to weekly and then to monthly meetings. So, you need to have capacity to absorb unexpected requirements.

What advice do you have for other women keen to become an INED?

The first step is to make sure that in your executive career path, your focus is moving up the organisation to a level where you have accumulated enough experience to contribute at a board level and you are on the radar of executive search firms. Once you are there, make sure you have an updated LinkedIn profile—a lot of my approaches have come through that channel. And of course going to networking events or speaking opportunities that get you in front of existing board members who are looking to recruit. One of my roles came from The Women's Foundation 30% Club Boardroom Lunch, while another came from a speaking opportunity where a member of the nomination committee of a board happened to be in the audience. Speaking and getting yourself out there is key.


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