Cover Photo: Jonny Marlow

In this interview, the Asian-American actress tells us why Wong’s legacy still matters, and where she wants to take her career after ‘Babylon’

Perhaps nobody knows better than Li Jun Li what it means to be a Chinese-American actress in Hollywood—both today and 100 years ago.

She has her role in Babylon to thank. Starring opposite Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, Li plays Lady Fay Zhu who, for all intents and purposes, is a fictional incarnation of Anna May Wong, who is widely regarded as Hollywood’s first Asian-American movie star. Throughout her career in the 1920s and the 1930s, Wong struggled for recognition in the American film industry, which often relegated her to roles that portrayed racist stereotypes of Asian people.

Hollywood tragically overlooked Wong’s magnetism, style and raw talent—all of which Li channels in Babylon. In fact, if critics and viewers can agree on one thing about the Damien Chazelle-directed epic, it’s that Li is a star: a singing, dancing, smoking sensation.

Read more: Simu Liu shares how being fired led him to become Marvel’s first Asian superhero

Tatler Asia
BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA - JANUARY 10: Li Jun Li attends the 80th Annual Golden Globe Awards at The Beverly Hilton on January 10, 2023 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Matt Winkelmeyer/FilmMagic)
Above Li Jun Li on the red carpet at the Golden Globes 2023 (Photo: Getty Images)
Tatler Asia
PARIS, FRANCE - JANUARY 14: Actress Li Jun Li attends the "Babylon" Paris Premiere At Le Grand Rex on January 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Marc Piasecki/WireImage)
Above Li at the France premiere of ‘Babylon’ (Photo: Getty Images)

It took Li a while to land her first lead role in a Hollywood blockbuster film. The Shanghai-born actress trained as a performer as early as when she moved to New York with her family as a child. She was enrolled in Chinese classical dance lessons, and then pursued dance in high school, where she also earned her first acting credits in musicals.

Li made her Broadway debut in 2008, through the acclaimed revival of South Pacific. Her Babylon gig was most recently preceded by roles in television series like Quantico, Minority Report, Why Women Kill (where Wong acted alongside one of her idols, Lucy Liu) and Wu Assassins, Netflix’s first martial arts drama show led by an Asian-American cast.

Li’s big break couldn’t have come at a better time. Today, Hollywood looks slightly different from the one that snubbed Anna May Wong. Li’s resume reflects the industry’s overdue efforts to be more diverse and inclusive in response to calls for more representation on screen. The results can be seen at recent red carpet events, where Li is one of the many Asian stars and filmmakers in attendance—the most notable of them being Michelle Yeoh, who made history with her Golden Globes win this month. None of it would have been possible without Wong, and Li knows it.

Below, Li shares why the Golden Age cinema star’s legacy matters today, how she brought Lady Fay to life, and which Babylon deleted scenes she wishes had made the final cut.

You originally trained in dance. What made you curious about acting?
I started dancing when I was eight and went to high school as a dance major at LaGuardia High School of Music and Art and Performing Arts in New York City (aka fame school). Our high school would produce annual musicals where they’d allow all students, across majors like dance, acting, voice, instrumental and art, to audition.

My first production was A Chorus Line, and then I played Cinderella in Into the Woods by Stephen Sondheim. I enjoyed the process of making a musical, and became addicted to performing, so much so that I ended up going to university for acting. I never grew up wanting to be an actress, but so many people in different parts of my life had always asked me if I’d ever thought about acting. I couldn’t see myself doing anything else so I’m thankful to them for leading me in the right direction. 

What did landing the role as Lady Fay Zhu in Babylon mean to you as an Asian-American actress?
The role was originally presented to me as Anna May Wong. It wasn’t until after I was cast that [Babylon director] Damien Chazelle emailed me to tell me that her name was actually Lady Fay, a fictional character loosely based on Anna May Wong. It was still of the utmost importance for me to portray her due to her importance in cinematic history, being the very first Chinese-American actress in Hollywood, as well as the first Chinese-American actress to gain international recognition. She’s one of the reasons why many of us are here today, because she fought relentlessly for representation as well as against stereotype casting and discrimination.

Tatler Asia
Above Photo: Jonny Marlow

How did you prepare for your role as Lady Fay Zhu?
I was fortunate that there was a biography of Anna May Wong by Graham Russell Gao Hodges. I also watched most, if not all, of her films that I could get my hands on.

What is your favourite Anna May Wong film?
Shanghai Express. Probably because I was most influenced by her performance in it while creating Lady Fay.

What surprising things did you learn about Anna May Wong during your research?
Reading about the discrimination she faced growing up in California back then was utterly heartbreaking. Despite her extensive resume, she was never cast as the leading lady due to anti-miscegenation laws that prohibited her from sharing an on-screen kiss with an actor of another race. She was often cast as stereotypes portraying “dragon ladies,” villains, or characters who were fetishised and “exotic,” and were always brutally killed. She famously said she has “died a thousand deaths”. And then the story of her being passed over for the role of O-lan in The Good Earth—the role was given to German actress Luise Rainer, using make-up to make her appear Chinese. Rainer won an Oscar for the role.

Tatler Asia
1932:  Anna May Wong (1905 - 1961) and Warner Oland (1880 - 1938) steal an embrace in the doorway of a train compartment, in a scene from the film 'Shanghai Express', directed by Josef von Sternberg.  (Photo via John Kobal Foundation/Getty Images)
Above Anna May Wong (left) in ‘Shanghai Express’ (1932) (Photo: Getty Images)

What do you think makes Anna May Wong such a captivating star, even today?
The tremendous mark she has made in Hollywood, especially for Asian Americans. Not only was she a pioneer, but she has also appeared in over 60 films spanning from silent films to sound, as well as television and stage. She has the presence, talent, grace and elegance that continues to captivate audiences today.

What are some similarities and differences between you and your character, Lady Fay?
I’d say we share the same values and how far we’d go to maintain our integrity in the business, in life. But she’s a far bigger badass than I am. I don’t think I’d fight a snake.

For your musical performance in Babylon, how did you bring out Lady Fay’s sex appeal?
It comes very naturally for me, and I have to thank my background in dance as the movement stems back to the physical discipline I’ve learned from my dancer days.

What was it like working with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie? Did you have any memorable experiences on set?
Where do I begin? This would be a 10-page essay if I were to list them all! Working with them was an honour. They were wonderful in every aspect and I’m very fortunate to have had this opportunity.

Tatler Asia
(left to right) Li Jun Li, Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie, Damien Chazelle, Olivia Hamilton, Diego Calva, Jovan Adepo and Katherine Waterston attending the premiere of Babylon at BFI Imax Waterloo in London. Picture date: Thursday January 12, 2023. (Photo by Ian West/PA Images via Getty Images)
Above Li joined co-stars Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie and Diego Calva, as well as director Damien Chazelle, at the London premiere of ‘Babylon’ (Photo: Getty Images)

What are some scenes that you wish made it to the final cut of Babylon?
My opening number was a full song and dance, choreographed by Mandy Moore, who also choreographed La La Land. She was incredible to work with and her choreography was on point with the song. I hope one day we’ll get to see it in a director’s cut. The other truncated scene is at her parents’ laundromat where Lady Fay comes to rescue her father from being berated by an irate, racist customer. It was originally a much longer scene where she plays into the “oriental” and “fetishised” version many people only saw her as in order to save her parents. She leans into speaking with a thick Chinese accent (very much like her opening song) before signing a headshot for the customer.

Are there any actors, actresses or directors that you hope to work with in future?
I finally got to meet Michelle Yeoh recently at the Golden Globes. I’d love to work with her one day.

You’ve done television, Broadway, and now a Hollywood blockbuster. Which do you enjoy the most?
When I was in acting school, I was often given the note that I was too “small” for theatre. So, I probably prefer film and television, as I am most comfortable with storytelling through my eyes. But I’d do a musical or a play again any day, they’re very different and rewarding in unique ways.

What is your dream acting role?
I’d never boil it down to just one, but I’d love to play a femme fatale sometime soon, or any role that is interesting, thought-provoking, and has the ability to move people in ways others cannot.

Topics