Cover Zara Khanna moderates a talk with Patrick Grove and Steve Chen (Photo: Billy Chan)

The co-founder of YouTube and the CEO of Catcha Group partner up to discuss how entrepreneurs can disrupt the industry

There is an art to disruption and no one is more familiar with how to do so than Steve Chen and Patrick Grove. 

Chen is one of the co-founders of YouTube, who also served as the video streaming platform’s CTO until 2008—even after Google acquired it in 2006 for $1.65 billion. 

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Through Catcha Group, Grove and his team help other organisations scale their markets and take their companies public. He has six IPOs under his belt across three exchanges and is behind on-demand video service Iflix, which was sold to Tencent in 2020, and real estate site iProperty Group, which was sold to Rupert Murdoch’s REA Group in 2016.

On November 9, both entrepreneurs were part of a panel at the Tatler Gen.T Summit in Hong Kong. In conversation with moderator Zara Khanna, a 14-year-old tech advocate and AI researcher, they revealed insightful theories on the journey to positive disruption and the pivotal mistakes and decisions they made along the way. 

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Above Steve Chen, one of the founders of YouTube (Photo: Billy Chan)

On regrets and hindsight

“Seeing how big [YouTube] has grown, many people usually ask me: ‘Do you regret selling YouTube to Google?’ said Chen. “Looking back, who would have known this was going to be the trajectory it was going to go on? But in hindsight, there was no way YouTube would have been successful without the guidance and the handholding of Google. I think it was the right decision to [sell] back then.”

On solving generational issues

“Every great business that is built starts with a problem,” said Grove. “[As an entrepreneur] you’re trying to solve a problem, and what I’ve found [to be the difference] between the entrepreneurs from the older generation versus today’s generation is that we’re trying to solve different problems.

“For instance, a lot of entrepreneurs I meet these days, a lot of the problems that they’re trying to solve is sustainability linked, environmental related. These are all great problems to solve, but these were not the problems entrepreneurs from the early days were trying to solve. [In the end], I’m not sure if it’s about people having different values or different ethics [per generation], it’s just that different problems have come up.”

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Above Patrick Grove discusses his thoughts on how to disrupt the industry (Photo: Billy Chan)

On survival

“If you’re in that seat where you are vying for survival, it is just getting to the mindset of what the investors are looking for,” said Chen. “It’s about making sure that the key metrics you are growing and focusing on are aligned with what the investors are looking for. After you get through those initial phases, you can start expanding and looking at other metrics to track. But really, in the early phases of startup, it’s about survival.”

On identifying entrepreneurs

“The world has glorified uber-successful entrepreneurs,” said Grove. “What most people don’t realise is that there are a billion people out there who don’t have a fixed salary every month, but they go out and build their businesses. Whether it’s a website online with 10 million users or a shop across the road selling noodles for a buck, these are all entrepreneurs. There are entrepreneurs everywhere [working to build their business].”

Above Highlights from Chen and Grove’s session at the Tatler Gen.T Summit 2023 in Hong Kong (Videography: C9 Media)

On founder-market fit

“I could be intellectually aware of a problem and what to do [about it], but I might not be the right person to solve that problem,” said Grove. “When I come across someone with a great idea, but I feel like they’re the wrong person for that idea, it could be for any number of reasons: history, geography, gender—it sometimes sucks because I think: ‘There’s a great idea, a great opportunity here’. But I don’t think you have a founder-market fit. And [what I’ve noticed is that] every journey has problems and pivots along the way, but it’s the people that have the right founder-market fit for that particular problem that will persevere.”

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Above A summary of Chen and Grove’s panel with Khanna (Infographics: Thoth)

Read more articles from the Tatler Gen.T Summit here.

The Tatler Gen.T Summit is sponsored by Standard Chartered Private Bank, Mercedes-Benz Hong Kong and MTR Lab, organised in partnership with M+, Regent, Black Sheep and Cathay Pacific and supported by Brand Hong Kong, Hong Kong Tourism Board and InvestHK.

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